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TF Victory - GRIMLOCK by GuidoGuidi TF Victory - GRIMLOCK by GuidoGuidi
What if Grimlock appeared in the japanese TF:Victory series?:)
Based on the 1989 Pretender toy released in Japan (but without Pretender outer shell)

Markers on manga paper+ps colors.

Transformers@Hasbro, TakaraTomy
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Phenometron Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013
That's an incredible refit Grimlock's undergone.
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metalformer Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Would have been interesting to see that. BTW, nice coloring!
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TrueBlueMichael Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is amazing! This is truly the best artwork of Grimlock I've ever seen.
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Daniel-Eggman Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
cool
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PrimeShift01 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
oh thats nice.
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HugoMadnessMolina Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
great design!!!
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tommasorenieri Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Professional
Davvero jappo! Fiico
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jamarmiller Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2012
awesome work
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srg1 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very cool design!!!!!!
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Retrohelix Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2012
Design wise this is really nice! But the pretenders are from Masterforce, not Victory.
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hinomars19 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2012   General Artist
But the classic pretender toys; Grimlock, Bumblebee, Jazz and Starscream were released in a box set-minus their pretender shells- during the victory toy line in Japan.

Besides, Victory still kept the pretender concept in the show with the Dinosaur force.
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Retrohelix Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2012
That's true if you go by the date the toys came out, but show-wise they belong to Masterforce, at least to the first half of the series.

About the Dinoforce, now that you mention it their concept was pretty silly, they were pretenders on the toys, but never on the show. They only rode the dinosaurs, and nobody ever questioned why they had dinosaurs there that had no actual purpose, not when they fused to Dinoking. I always thought they had to ride the dinosaurs because the robots had short legs xD
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hinomars19 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2012   General Artist
The toys sell the show. No one has to ask why they ride dinosaurs, from the toys they know it's their pretender shells. Thankfully Victory knew not every toy gimmick needed a forced (and useless) fiction explanation, taking up story telling time.

So you're saying prtenders can't exist outside of Masterforce? Silly or not, Dinoforce shows Takara didn't mind breaking the rule. Also, albeit briefly, Black shadow and Blue Bacchus made an appearance in Victory.
Classic Pretenders and Mega pretenders carrying into Victory is no different to the headmaster concept crossing from Headmasters to Masterforce with the new headmaster Juniors.
That coupled with Takaras release of this box set easily allows these characters to be from Victory. (plus, as you know, the box set was without the pretender shell)

If it makes you feel any better, Guido 'got it right' as it seems, with his newest concept:[link]

Sorry If I'm jumping on you, but this trend of every one of these concepts having some wise guy suggest Guido has it wrong because they 'BELONG' to Masterforce, to me, is irritating. Maybe it's not my battle. But what can I say.
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ArtsyPabster Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Professional General Artist
Little touchy, arent we?
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:iconhinomars19:
hinomars19 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   General Artist
I can be, yes ;P
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ArtsyPabster Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
yeeeaa...maybe you should let Guido do that, I'm sure he can defend himself very well, if there's a need for it.
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hinomars19 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012   General Artist
Didn't mean to step on anyone's toes, I was just bringing up a perfectly valid point in response to a comment on a subject I have a lot of interest in. Shouldn't be anything wrong with that.
Wanting to defend the artists rights to labeling his own concepts and ideas was just a portion of my reasons, not the whole.
And I did this because I am an artist myself, not because it's specifically Guido Gidi or because it's someone I admire, but because I see nothing wrong with defending the ethic behind any piece of artwork. This sounds presumptious and perhaps out of line, I agree, but as I already stated 'defending' the work or the artist was only part of the reason.

And yes, I realise this sounds 'touchy'.
One could ask why you yourself have jumped into this conversation, I assume because you have seen a comment that takes your interest and have some input to it. I did no different, really.
I apologised to the person in question for jumping him, and I'll do the same here as I realise that sometimes I can be a bit bull-ish and overly straightforward (and yes, overly wordy). I have, however, no intention of causing ofence. To anyone.
I understand your point, and appreciate it, I really do :thumbsup:
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odinson119 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2012
How much to get something like that?
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flynn1978 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012
Cool arms!
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cybershot Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012
Nice!
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Geminii27 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012
Hmm. Add the shell = Masterforce Grimlock?
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Gryphman Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012
I really like these. Keep em up! :D
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JohnnyFive81 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Cool work! I have the toy at home, and it's a good one!
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danbrenus Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
Assolutamente favoloso, si vedono, benissimo sfruttate, tutte le influenze da robottoni giapponesi anni '70 perfettamente integrate in un design TF...anch'io adoro TF Victory, anche solo perchè i TF quando camminano fanno lo stesso rumore che faceva Mazinga z!
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GuidoGuidi Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012   General Artist
Eh sì, Victory aveva quella "cattiveria" che mancava alle serie precedenti... credo che se l'avessero importata avrebbe avuto successo anche in Italia
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danbrenus Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012
Capisco cosa intendi, basta guardare la prima scena della prima puntata, dove Starsaber affronta i due banditi decepticons in un villaggio "di frontiera", sembrava di vedere un incrocio tra Trider g7 e Sam il ragazzo del west.
Deathsaurus poi era un villain degno di succedere a Megatron.
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bairdduvessa Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
very awesome again!
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trabloSK Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
If he'd appeared in the TF-V,he would have been Dinoforce's(恐竜戦隊) formidable rival!
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fidlersp Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Very cool. Loving these interpretations.
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LBDNytetrayn Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Loving this! I hope this means we'll see Jazz, too; the Pretender versions of Grimlock and Jazz were the only ones I ever got to own...
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LBDNytetrayn Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
...and I should add that the Marvel Comics did absolutely no justice to the new inner-robot designs.
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Grimbot Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
PERFECT!
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Tamashikiri Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Me Tamashikiri like! :D
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epiphany7empf Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Awesome! Do the other 3!
And the shells too!
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GAbo-kun Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
wow i like it !
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm happy!
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BrenGun Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
awesome!!!
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VZMk2 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Hobbyist
NICE!
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KPhillips702 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Looking more badass than ever, awesome job!
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supersmylyZ Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Grimlock is one of my favorite characters, mostly because he also played a big part in the Beast Wars and had a kickass dinosaur form.
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Jack-Pumpkinhead Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Wow, for years that was the only Grimlock toy I had (and I liked the Pretender shell). Nicely done!
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spoonyliger Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Grimjaw? Grimjawlock? Ouch.
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Dragonshade Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
I'm digging these a lot. Victory is my favorite Japanese Transformers series, and these are a great "what if?" type of thing.

I think you have a great mimicking of Ban Magami's (character model designer for Headmasters-Masterforce-Victory) style for these, hope to see more!
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IaconStargazer Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Now THAT is pretty cool. : )
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wizardofosmond Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Very very nice
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CykoHedgehog Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Which also makes him look like Classics Grimlock, with the exception of no rex-head feet, since that design looked like an evolved version of the Pretender one.
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TRice01 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Very cool!
Though, isn't his face suppose to be orange for this version? Or did the Japanese version come with a silver painted face? Or is this artistic licence that I'm stepping all over like some sort of creep?
.... if it's the last one, sorry, no disrespect is meant, just wanting to see what you're thinking.
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shegomaniac Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Japanese toy did have a silver face, compared to the North American orange face.
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TRice01 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
It did? All right then. I couldn't quickly find any clear pics of the robot mode for the Japanese version so I wasn't sure. Thank you for cluing me in.
I retract my comment and continue to praise this piece as a masterful work of Transformers awesomeness.
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